Monadnock Ledger-Transcript - Claims of mountain lions spread And then just up behind it you know at about 11 o'clock on one side and whatever that would be on the other side it's black. Caller: Yeah I hadn't experienced blastoff fall so this was around September and I was driving from Webster into Concord on Horse Hill Road and anybody in the area would know I was right near the Red Barn and all of a sudden this animal jumps out of the woods and it bounded across the road in about two two giant leaps and stopped in the field just on the other side. Tonight, Sean McDonald investigates,. So hey, just me shooting from the hip, maybe there are a couple mountain lions skulking about. Pelosi story here we go. Rick shaking his head so Rick now correct me please. Today she talked with us a little bit before the show about why the mountain line is so compelling and why we want it to be part of our world. The most common areas to see mountain lions in Arizona are in places of rocky and mountainous terrain. Caller: Yeah. If youd like to submit a question (or send a mountain line photo) you can record it as a voice memo on your smart phone and send it tooustidein@nhpr.org, OR call our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (1-844-466-8837) and leave a message. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Part II - WMUR Thanks for calling. Peter Biello: And then it ran away okay. M from Tree Hill author series presenting Diane lay back. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. And boy it was big it had to be at least 200 pounds the thing was you and and it just made a little bit of noise and it was gone. Join as a $8 per month sustainer and get our brand-new owl umbrella! Rick van de Poll: Rick van de Poll so I was a non-believer as well. support for an HBO who comes from you our listener Sam from advanced in you a local New Hampshire nonprofit specializing in college student loans and student refinancing options. You saw what you saw. Patrick Tate: Same here in New Hampshire too. Through DNA they approximate area in the United States or North America where I was born. Peter Biello: Hmm. Which which I think Pat and I have both experienced. PublishedNovember 16, 2018 at 6:16 AM EST. Have you heard stories do you have questions about the mountain line. Peter Biello: Well John thanks very much for the story really appreciate it. Long before NASA was asked to put a man on the moon one engineer had already figured out how to get there. Peter Biello: So Patrick today Fish and Game no downward pressure on you to deny the existence at all costs of mountain lions here in New Hampshire. Caller: I cannot recall or see the tail in my in my image of it. Patrick Tate: My line being a large predator a cat watch ambush his prey animal that hasn't been. And maybe it's a no holds barred nostalgia for a better world a wild or Fuller world not a world that's constrained by our boundaries and our taxes and our highways. Caller: Are probably. Pat ruse and he was sampling doing DNA samples from cats in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org. So they're scary. It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction 3,207 views Jul 31, 2019 78 Dislike Share Save New Hampshire Fish and Wildlife 634 subscribers During my thirty-one career at the New. Do you get a lot of these these these things that end up being hoaxes. The engineers Dan Colgan our senior producer is Allan Grimm. When they were landing or taking off and it seems like it's been there for like. Have you seen one. The Connecticut Mountain Lion is the best documented wild Mountain Lion in New England. Copyright New Hampshire Fish and Game Department.An official New Hampshire government website. What kind of animal is that. It was in the spring flash kind of early summer and my wife looked at you look at the size of an adult bear and we were up in arms. The DNA the DNA that they were able to pull from the cat suggested that it was a dispersed mountain lion that came. Saddleback Mountain Lions The big cat has been extinct at least the eastern mountain lion has been extinct here since the mid 80s hundreds. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction - YouTube HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. Patrick Tate: So one thing I'd say is DNA would definitely identify an animal animal's Mark line or not. So. Peter Biello: They make great mascots at least. Do we have native species that could have exhibited this type of behavior leaving leaving a deer carcass up in a tree. Rick van de Poll: Well a report that you know as John Harrigan up north has in co-ops County for about 15 years I kept track of reports and people would call me and tell me where they saw the mountain lion they thought they saw it and it varied right from you know downtown villages all the way to remote highlands of the North Country and and everywhere in between. Peter Biello: There have been several alleged sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. Nicholas Handy can be reached at 924-7172 ext. I have one that's more elaborate than that. I didn't see him online. Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. Peter Biello: Well I want to ask Patrick about one of these stories a few years ago you had a story about someone who claimed to. Sam what's the incentive for the government to deny allegedly. Patrick Tate: No downward pressure at all I think actually Sean turned up and we found the evidence there a number of people would finally say finally we can put this debate to bed. I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. It all used to be based on measurable physical traits color, skull size, paw size, etc but now its based on whether an animal can be shown to be genetically distinct from others. And I can recall its information but I can't confirm or verify anything. Right. When you talk about a bobcat Bobcat maybe 80 90 pounds and then a mountain lion could be between 130 and 180 pounds. There was a lot of DNA evidence. And sometimes I've seen pictures of those where it's the question is What is that is that a bobcat. Patrick Tate: While a juvenile not a juvenile I guess if you want nodes to the base of the tail for juvenile that wouldn't be small at all. And just one more note about this danger question when even when you look at the states that have extended populations stable populations of mountain lions attacks are relatively rare. You don't know what's going on. Peter Biello: What about the idea of tourism like us leaving aside the fact that it is not on the Endangered Species Act is it. I noticed it had a really big sweeping tail that kind of curled up behind it and all but still at that point because everyone says there's no mountain lions here. Want to report a Mountain Lion sighting in New Hampshire? Like why would you want one wildlife. So this whole illegal pet trade black market pro trade thing does does exist in a situation like that can happen. And I think a lot of folks would like them to be around. If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. Peter Biello: So Rick seems like you agree that the tail is a big giveaway whether or not it's a mountain lion Absolutely. As wildlife biologists, wed be fascinated to say 'look look what was found in our state.'. The 17-year-old Kiger mustang mare was born in Bend, Oregon, said Hodskins, who got her . So Pat you field a lot of calls about people seeing or reportedly seeing mountain lions. Rick van de Poll: Well the mountain lion of course has been sort of an enigma in the wildlife suite for years and years. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all along the waykilled a beaver near the Quabbin Reservoir in Central Massachusetts, left behind prints and DNA at that site, and then was hit by a car in Connecticut. There's always been physical evidence to prove those situations like hair or fur scat hair prints pictures of the animal print scat hair. Support for an age PR comes from you our listeners. Is there a way we can learn more about these dispersing mountain lions that may travel through the Granite State and that I would ask you certainly part about whether or not a he's spending too much time chasing down these kind of false leads or B would rather be doing something else that is more informative to whether or not we actually have or can prove that we have dispersing mountain lions in the state. Mountain lions (especially males) have incredibly large ranges that they defend from rivals. So what a neat experience. Today on the exchange we discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. That's pretty elaborate. Sam Evans-Brown: So Tim so this cat's been been referenced a couple of times I think we should talk about it specifically lay the whole story out for folks who haven't heard the story because it's actually I think really indicative of a lot of stuff for talking about. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. What's interesting about Bobcats is here in the Northeast we have some very large bobcats. Post your sightings and NH photos here! And I was probably about a half a mile from downtown all village on the right. brings a lot of. I believe I saw one that's fine and I'm not looking for an immediate story. Well within there. And why would they what. Yes. Sam Evans-Brown: Pretty well I was going to say it is nice to hear about how to identify the facial markings but probably I'd being a to identify the tracks is probably the more useful useful tool that one can have in their tool box. The best documentation we have in New Hampshire suggests there hasnt been a mountain lion killed by a hunter in this state since 1885. Sam Evans-Brown: Certainly that is a thing I've heard but again you have to think of the incentives involved here. Peter Biello: I did mention four feet nose to tail would be kind of small for a mountain lion. Here it is. "Of those three to five reports,. for some excitement. They reported seeing the big tail and everything everything. Think You Saw A Mountain Lion in N.H.? - New Hampshire Public Radio Mountain Lions in NH. Peter Biello: Ok weird question but do they make good pets. So we're fixated on natural but there's other possibilities. The Eastern mountain lion is extinct in the eastern United States and Canada, but in 2011, a . Think you've seen a mountain lion. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. So and so they so they do get pretty involved. That's too big for Bobcat. And you know all that. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Part II But Absence of Evidence Is Not Evidence of Absence, Right? I found a second scat scent both to him. And it's not really strong. I've seen him in the woods and that was not a bobcat but I was looking at. It was not a bobcat. New Hampshire Public Radio | People go through great lengths to create hoaxes like this. OK. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Part I Yes. And that the Florida panther was more closely related to the eastern outline than the western mountain lion was. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. There were several sightings in CT over the last few months. The states never denied mountain lions are here, and theyve never admitted mountain lions are here. 1,470 likes. Fish and Game then deny the evidence. Less than a year later I found a scat on the swamp range and I was working at the time with a fellow at the Michigan wildlife habitat Federation. Thanks also to Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England and Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in about the natural world and how we use it. Well they are the same. All of that remains unanswered but it is an extremely interesting question. I'm sorry go ahead you're on the air. So I did a bunch of research and all the documentation I found was there art are not any pieces of DNA of Eastern online. Does not test random Scouts. You're on the air. Let us know your story and share your photos. I live pretty much on the town line of Greenfield just a couple of miles down in the Greenfield. So let's let's go to the phones. Good morning guys. So what those ranges. But I was riding a mountain bike not far from my house.

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