NFL players show off 2022 'My Cause, My Cleats' footwear. First I think we need to remember that the NFL is a JOB! Correct, no different, but still stupid. Im not arguing the merit of the request with this post, but I do think youre off base if youre throwing out the companies have policies line here. I dont have any. I said, We want to keep it that way. . Cmon Cam show a pair! Wow the readers on this sight make me sick sometimes. There are 31 other that might want to employ me, so its your choice sir! From a business stand point Mr. Richardson is well within his rights to make that request. Speaking to an interview he explained: I dont have tattoos because I donate blood very often. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. But it is rediculous to think that people would watch the NFL less if all the players had tattoos and piercings. Its his show. It isnt illegal for the boss to discriminate against people with tattoos or piercings. Previous to this article, I was down on Cameron Newton. Everybody has made good points in this discussion. It happens in many different workplaces. Love the fact that Cam doesnt have any, but it is certainly not up to Mr. Richardson to dictate this. Cmon Cam show a pair! And for that I applaud him. Richardson presumably wants him to do nothing that would potentially alienate the mainstream paying customers. We wont allow an employee to enter a home with vivible tattoos or piercings. If a potential employee doesnt agree with itthat is fine. The Yankees have a long standing ban on facial hair and long hair, and thats been working all right for them over the years. What this article reveals to me is that at some point in Richardsons thought process, it occurred to him that a BLACK QB will be leading his team and he wants to make sure that that potential team leader kept his appearance a certain way. Probably not, but has anybody noticed their piercings or tats? Michael Redd 12-26-2008, 05:39 PM #38 TMAC-RAPTORS Sharpshooter Join Date Oct 2008 Posts 2,173 Re: Name 10 current black players without But he would be smart to play along. The BOSS had certain standards for the Yankees when it came to facial hair. Thats just fact. No. Now obviously an athlete will have a little more trouble hiding these things because of the locker room, but Richardson made a request, Newton, as a man (and if they are men here, they are men when they make a mistake too), can follow that request or ignore it. However, what Cam does with his body outside the realm of being in shape, keeping himself healthy and making sure he is prepared to lead the team effectively, is none of the owners business. I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. Tattoos are the new mainstream. The NBA is just now after 10 years starting to recover. Come to think of it, Ive seen far more whites with tattoos and piercings falling off their bodies than I have blacks. The Hip Hop culture cost the NBA a lot of money. Denver Broncos. I removed my piercings, because its frowned upon in my profession. 5. I dont want to see a league where guys that have tattoos are only allowed to be on certain teams because the owners deemed tattoos to be bad for business. If Cam newton goes out and does get them, and his contract gets termed, welcome to the real world. The main reason Ronaldo does not have tattoos is that he donates blood regularly. Those who say Richardson can run his business as he sees fit, that theyve had jobs that forbid tattoos, etc. Virgil Van Dijk Gets A Huge Compliment From Michael Owen. Although I do understand his rationale. This is not so much about race as it is about, the bottom line which is money. A player on a team is a product you market with a certain image it wishes to promote and portrayand you want the face of it to be as clean as a whistle. Back Football Tattoos 7. He interviewed for a sales position with a company, and showed up at the interview with an earring. Just ask your grandparents. The 6-foot-5, 230-pound Johnson was the preseason SEC player of the year in. As usual the folks here are writing an article about nothing to create page hits and controversy. You must be logged in to leave a comment. Thats what all you widget owners want, right? This Baltimore Ravens fan is chronicling his team's 2021 season in a permanent way -- tattoos for every win. my 80+ yr old great uncle has a tat that says mom on his arm, does that make him a bad person? And such is life! EvalAngell 7 years ago #11 While I can't tell you which players don't have tattoos, I can tell you that offensive linemen always have the worst ones. But I cant have BOTH at this stage in my career. A perfect example is Robert Kraft and his relationships with his team. Many athletes get tattoos to honor those who have influenced their careers or to represent themselves positively through art. Kante is the only chelsea players without tattoos in our list. Now, if he gets all tatted and pierced up like Dennis Rodman, his options will be fewer. If he doesnt have any at this age he probably doesnt want them, but its the principle. By the way does anyone have a problem with Clay Matthews have long hair and tats? Sure, they are drafted by a team and therefore obligated to play for them or else harm their chances of playing anywhere at all, but they are not shackled to the deck and forced to scrub the floors. you dont get labor protection for discrimination against tats, piercings, smoking, having kids, being a Nazi or any one of a multitude of personal traits. You could go a lot of different ways with a tattoo featuring The Greek Freak as its headline, but the Milwaukee Bucks 2. How many would just harbor a disdain and not address it? Grant Hill 5. You think you can go into a big firm and score a high paying job while sporting tatoos and peircings? Its not like this is new. Players have to cover tattoos and be well groomed. This isnt a matter of an owner telling a player how to dress and act; its about a businessman maximizing his products marketability. Not everyone who has tattoos is a gang-banger or crimminal. If the owners made rules about when the players where allowed to go number 2 you would probably approve. As an owner of a business, I can dictate how I want my business to be presented to the buying public. Russell Westbrook 10. This is way different. Cam liked what he heard, Richardson liked what he saw and heard. In this country we have the freedom to make bad decisions. I agree that this is both troubling and disturbing to say the least However, I have noticed that this is yet another example of the new corporate mentality that is being allowed to take over this country. French international NGolo Kante remains a humble human being despite his recent successes. this, however, is taking it a step further by dictating how cam can look when hes not at work. Maybe that makes him unattractive to media but he is the best!. Let me simplify this one for the bloody-do-gooders and first amendment nuts. Salman Chaudhary Cam does not have an issue with it. You are watching the sterilization of this country happening right before your eyesand I notice that most of you respondersare already touting the corporate linelike good lemmings do. The NFL has always been known as a league where players can display their personalities in a number of different ways. theres a big difference between an owner of a business and the owner of a sports team that alot of you are not mentioning. Aug 24, 2011 6:29 AM Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. There are enough teams that dont care about tattoos and piercings that I dont think that will be Newtons issue, assuming he has the make-up to live up to his athletic talent. I think Cam wants to be the next commercial superstar. Barcelona legend Andreas Iniesta refused to wear tattoos during his footballing career and is one of the few footballers without tattoos. and not that cool old school. Thankfully, the tattoos didn't stop 25-year-old Kaepernick from getting an NFL job. Nothing worse than going to the doctors office and my freaking nurse has a nose piercing. I can name SEVERAL black players in the league without tatoos and piercings. Thanks for clearing that up, Jerry! And, with that change, youre right. the guy owns a team and has a right to employ whomever he chooses to as long as he doesnt discriminate on a very specific set of items. So u really want to believe that a QB spends every waking moment studying game films? The poll results are sad. Sounds like a real bigot. Richardson, who said that Newton was dressed perfectly for their meeting, was blunt. This clause is enforced @ ALL TIMESwhether she is on or off duty. Im not sure why NFL players should be any different. He thought he had the right to demand to be allowed to represent the company his way; problem is, it wasnt his company. Whats worse than Richardsons comments some of the idiotic defenses of it in this list of posts. And the unfortunate truth is, in big business, image is EVERYTHING. I thought, Oh my God! My mate was in and he felt proper awkward.. I said, Do you have any tattoos? Richardson told Rose. If you show up for an interview looking like a hood you might not get hired. At least hopefully Cam will show better judgement than Pryor and avoid getting any tattoos on his throwing arm in the 24 hours leading up to a game, that habit really hurt Pryors consistency. Richardson is trying to keep Cam Newtons already tainted name from getting anymore questionable. Manchester Uniteds star midfielder, Paul Pogba refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. Gareth Bale follows the footsteps of his teammate Cristiano Ronaldo and refuses to wear any tattoos. Cam wanted the money that comes with being the #1 pick. Sleeve Football Tattoos 5. He told him he cant have tatoos or piercings! Obviously there are exceptions to this idea such as Mike Vick but even Vick acknowledged that before his stint in the clink he didnt spend near enough time studying. Hair style, personal choices, selection of spouse, where to eat, (god forbid he is seen eating at IHOP instead of Dennys) what to wear, where to go, etc, etc, ad nasuem. CAVEAT: Richardson is 78 and will not be around to head the team through Cams tenure. First of all, there is no race issue here. If not, than hes way out of line. Where is Allen Iverson when you need him?. Oh this is NOT gonna get 8 pages of comments about how bad this man is out of his mind Nope lol wow. In an era where football players flaunt their expensive possessions, Kante opted for a humble life and refuses to show off things. The players are going to fill that lost in their new collective barging agreement. Id be grouchy too if i was in my 70s. I know many companies you require that no tatoos or piercings be visible. Who are their critics to say otherwise, nobody? Your poll question says telling players which is a problem. You can. After all, this is a business, would you go to McDonalds if Ronald had 15 piercings all around his mouth and nose? Thigh Football Tattoos 11. There are laws against being singled out like that. No wonder the panthers blow. A bigger issue (in my mind) is that an owner shouldnt be able to selectively enforce any policy on any one employee. Ive had jobs before that told me I cant have my hair too long or have any visible tattoos or piercings. but to be able to dictate what one chooses to do with his/her body (as long as its not immoral/illegal) as an employer? Everybody has made good points in this discussion. Jerry is old school. Is hard reset only way to salvage Jets QB dilemma? It is completely up to the owner how his team looks, just as it is in any business. Welcome to the real world Jerry. it makes little sense why Richardson is saying no tattoos or piercings to one guy, but not to others, but oh well. All you widget business owners out there can dictate how your employees dress. WebDerek, or Derek Arthur Paggao-Ramsay, was born in Enfield, England on December 7, 1976 to British father Derek Ramsay Sr. See Derek Ramsay full list of movies and tv shows from their career. Im a banker. Cam is just a kid and JR was just trying to set the stage for the owner-player relationship. Hell, I took my mother-in-law to get her 1st tattoo for her 60th birthday. Sounds negotiable to me. 1 location for custom sneakers in Europe. Employers (particularly those paying you millions) making these type of desires known is totally reasonable. George Steinbrenner had the same rule for Yankees players. Are you guys Fn kidding me? With Cam Newton, I understand Jerrys position; he wants a clean cut guy to represent the franchise. At 18-9, the 76ers lead the Eastern Conference. Am I saying Richardson is a racists? Or says something stupid. That being said, most businesses have dress codes for their employees. If Newton doesnt like it, get them and let Richardson trade him for it. The first one relates to the pre-draft meeting between Richardson and quarterback Cam Newton. I have several tats that are in memory of loved ones who have diedas well as several others that have special meaning. I think he has a right to tell the face of his franchise to not look like a disgrace not sure why so many people are taking offense to this. In any job, you have to understand and be prepared to deal with the bosss personality quirks and pet peeves. freedomispopular says: The Jaguars have had a resurgent season and one of the best defenses in the NFL. They have the ability to quit and do something else just like we all do if they dont like the business they work for. I think its probably aimed at the Look at me persona that a lot of NFL players have adopted. my issue is this: sure companies can dictate how you show up and act at work, i get that. Fans may be the lifeblood of the NFL, but theyre going to be there regardless. In the time it took me to post this he prolly sold 10,000 chicken biscuits. Then again, they are probably just like me, wasting time at work, reading and posting on PFT. Hmmmmm, 3octaveFart says: ahI remember when America used to be alot more about personal freedom (about 10-12 years ago) and less about conforming to the new corporate america that is now in control. This mentality is being shoved down all of americas work force as Unions are being forced out. Bottom line is Hes there to win games and win fans which equals more money for the franchise. So what if hes old school. There just arent that many supremely gifted athletes like Vick out there that can spend virtually no extra time on being a great QB. If it does become an issue he can always request a trade to the Raiders or Bengals. He will not fine or discipline him, but what it will do is strain the relationship between the two. They should call this site OldFogeyTalk instead. and second, since when did just having a tat make you immoral for some reason? I wonder if he also told Newton to stay off his lawn. Whether he wanted to get a tattoo or not he should have stood his ground and said respectfully sir, I dont have any tattoos or piercings, but I alone will decide if I do or I dont. some families are probably turning off pro sports right now, just because of this explosion of tats in the last 15 years.). Hes an extremely handsome man, and with a little success on the field, can parlay that into a lucrative marketing deal. Man I usually HATE when the race card is played but this sure walks a fine line. Its a business people. I think Cam is smart enough to realize his marketing potential if his play lives up to the hype. There are huge differences, to be sure, but the same laws apply. What makes you part of the team is not the draft but the contract that is signed, which most NFL contract do have a morality/ dress code clause look at Plexico Buress and others who violate their teams contracts by doing stupid things. (Ive always made sure my tattoos can be covered up when the need arises). Just for the record, most old people prefer young people to not have any piercings, tattoos, or ridiculous hair. Do it all in one complete sports tournament management system. My employer has a policy of no visible tattoos. If he is quoted correctly there was no ultimatim, so there should be no issue. To everyone that keeps talking about my companys policy handbook has thisThis doesnt apply to this situation because Cam is being singled out. . No one can reasonably claim that a tattoo on a players butt affects his appearance. He is the best deep threat in NFL and has been waiting to be paid accordingly. If your view is so clouded and cant see thru it, I have no need for your job or your friendship. The reality is that this is a business and if you turn off your customers, you hurt the profit. This is no different than someone going to work for a store that required a certain presentation.thats what the owner wants.his team.if Newton doesnt like it, he doesnt have to play! People forget that these guys work FOR the owners just like you work FOR your boss. That could be construed to be a health and safety issue, particularly in a contact sport. Richardson: Oh yea, by the way no white girls either Cam. They just want the most talented guys. This while working in Chicago. Im in professional services. The notion that teams would try to make players into non-threatening billboards seems more than a little heavy-handed, even if its done in the name of growing the pie to the benefit of teams and players alike. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis An NFL owner can tell his employers whatever he wants. Newton is a grown man, and he can do whatever he wants by way of decorating his body with ink or ice, or by growing his hair as long as he pleases. While Cam is not a front office guy he is the CEO on the field. that some of you morons mentioned. just because you own a company/team, doesnt mean you can tell your employees to do whatever you want. Itd be racist if he said it to all black players which he didnt. AGAIN. I find nothing as silly as when people try to compare playing in the NFL to a regular job. McDonalds can tell me pretty much the same thing. Dwyane Wade 8. Chris Paul 2. He is one of the few footballers without tattoos as it prohibited in his religion Islam. I can also name several white players in the league with tatoos and piercings. However, Richardson definitely has control issues, so Newton would be smart not to make this an issue. Hes not. no one cares about your jobs or your bosses rules He owns the team and has done nothing wrong in stating that to him. NOW that is FUNNY. Jason Thompson 9. Wearing tattoos is prohibited in his religion so he is not allowed to wear any. . Some are police officers who are willing to take a bullet to protect your stupid a##. Does anyone actually think if Newton actually got a tattoo(s) or piercing(s), Richardson would actually fire or discipline Newton? In the wake of the Aaron Hernandez arrest, some eyebrows were raised at the news that authorities were scanning his vast array of tattoos for evidence of gang connections. Believe it or not hes no dummy. Ike Diogu 7. If he doesnt have any at this age he probably doesnt want them, but its the principle. There is a difference in telling players and asking players. He should just say no thanks, go get a couple of tats and sign with the Colts for less money and he can sit behind Manning. Its none of his business. If the bank guaranteed me 22 million bucks in exchange for not mutilating my body, im pretty sure im gonna take that deal. The only superstar duo without tattoos is Embiid and Simmonds. It is a joke people support such dumb rules to be enforced on someone. Bicep Football Tattoos 3. now with that said, i do agree that a no piercings/tatoos policy can hold up. However, the players that chose to go there generally are free agents and choose to acquiesce to that rule. There is nothing wrong with the owner telling Cam his preferences with tatoos. But to single Cam out specifically, esp since hes black, is tainted with the stench of blatant racism. Sadio Mane loves playing football and only football. Jerry Richardson wants it to be 1962 forever. David Luiz is a devout Catholic like most South Americans and wearing tattoos is prohibited. I know there are those who will argue the New York Yankees no facial hair rules if one wants to play for the organization. Its sad that so many companies feel the need to suppress individualism all in the name of capitalism. He is one of the few footballers without tattoos. It seems to be accepted in industries that dont deal much with the public, except for the carnival. As a Panthers fan, this is one of the biggest non stories i have ever read on this site. If you explain the business reasons , most would go along. The decision to hire "police tattoo experts" to examine NFL players is not only racist, but a really stupid idea, every way you consider it. Do NFL players have to cover their tattoos? Rushmore. You can do anything you want. Aug 24, 2011 8:24 AM I have no problem with Richardson making a suggestion like that, its his company and hed like it if the face of his franchise was clean cut. The yankees do the same stuff in baseball. Aug 24, 2011 5:45 AM There is something special about being and NFL QB and Cam fully appreciates and understands that. Ryan Leaf has no visible tattoos or piercings, but I wouldnt want him on my team. The NBA says the players must wear normal clothes before and after games. I think the owner has the right but I dont see how it helps your team win games. At least Cam knows how he can get out of Carolina if he wants. 22 million or needles in my nose and ears? So save all the rediculous comments about athletes being slaves. He said, No, sir. I commend Richardson for saying what is on his mind and being upfront with Cam Newton. I think Jerry Richardson is a boorish, stubborn, old man who was the driving reason/unreason behind the lockout. Best comment of the day. To all the posters that have said some variaton of if he doesnt like it, work somewhere else or I own a business and my employees do as they are told the guy was drafted. Cam: WTF!!!!! I dont really like JR but it doesnt sound like he told Newton he isnt allowed to get tattoos or piercings, he was just letting him know he would prefer he doesnt. Richardson is an idiot. Is that unreasonable? The employer has a right to spend their money on a person who looks presentable. BUT I think im reading into Richardsons intentions the face of the franchise will make both of them money if he is clean of those markings. Web13) Ezequiel Lavezzi, the Jesus and Mary tattooes. if you read the question as stated, then the CLEAR answer should be NO. This is absurd! No long hair, no facial hair, etc, and no one has a problem with that. But anyway, he is a classy player but we wouldnt be surprised to see him in a tattoo shop. And thats why theyre the Panthers. Not to be superstitious but a tattoo would definitely mess up the team mojo if he got one now, right? They trade 90% of their drafted prospects anyway, but the guys they do bring up go along because that is the standard in the locker room amongst the veterans. First thing he should have asked his new QB is whether he though he could win a Super Bowl. Not a big deal though, most employers want employees to look professional. Richardson might as well have told Cam: If you ever feel slighted by me and want to piss me off, get yourself a tattoo.. The NFL is trending dangerously close to the path the NBA took years ago and is now the NBA is trying to rebuild its image and fan base. The New York Yankees have similar policies with being clean and neat looking. It cant be a case-by-case issue (even though that seems to be the leagues M.O.).

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